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ACTUALLY customising a unit (not just repositioning a handle)...
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(29-12-2017, 09:13 PM)Petercochrane Wrote: Sorry- I suppose a little more info about me may help paint a better picture of the situation.

I'm a sole trader, and have been for nearly 12 years. I design, manufacture, finish and install kitchens and fitted furniture in a variety of styles, but mostly in-frame kitchens produces the bulk of my turnover.

I'm desperate to not sound slanderous regarding Articad. It is a hugely respected software, and produces some amazing images. However it seems to achieve bespoke in frame cabinets involves amalgamating numerous cabinets and end panels. I've never 'cobbled' anything together in the workshop, or on SketchUp, and as such always achieve an accurate result.

Yes; I've spoken to Articad. I had a rep down to see me prior to Christmas, and I have a meeting scheduled for early New Year. I can't and won't fault their desire to help. However... (as any sole trader will know is not an exaggeration) when I'm sat at my desk at 11:00pm trying to get a quote put together and I can't figure out how to do something, and I have no manual to refer to, and there is no info on the site to aide me, it's a bit of a bind!

The sound of an in-frame update is very appealing. Hopefully it's sooner rather than later. I had three kitchens to quote for prior to Christmas that have all received SketchUp drawings despite me having a dedicated laptop with Articad on it!

Ho-hum!

Interesting.... Similar to how I worked when I had my own business...

So you used Sketchup which is very capable of producing bespoke stuff... do you create 3D renders with it for your customers then?

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(30-12-2017, 03:50 PM)Daz Gizmo Wrote:
(29-12-2017, 09:13 PM)Petercochrane Wrote: Sorry- I suppose a little more info about me may help paint a better picture of the situation.

I'm a sole trader, and have been for nearly 12 years. I design, manufacture, finish and install kitchens and fitted furniture in a variety of styles, but mostly in-frame kitchens produces the bulk of my turnover.

I'm desperate to not sound slanderous regarding Articad. It is a hugely respected software, and produces some amazing images. However it seems to achieve bespoke in frame cabinets involves amalgamating numerous cabinets and end panels. I've never 'cobbled' anything together in the workshop, or on SketchUp, and as such always achieve an accurate result.

Yes; I've spoken to Articad. I had a rep down to see me prior to Christmas, and I have a meeting scheduled for early New Year. I can't and won't fault their desire to help. However... (as any sole trader will know is not an exaggeration) when I'm sat at my desk at 11:00pm trying to get a quote put together and I can't figure out how to do something, and I have no manual to refer to, and there is no info on the site to aide me, it's a bit of a bind!

The sound of an in-frame update is very appealing. Hopefully it's sooner rather than later. I had three kitchens to quote for prior to Christmas that have all received SketchUp drawings despite me having a dedicated laptop with Articad on it!

Ho-hum!

Interesting.... Similar to how I worked when I had my own business...

So you used Sketchup which is very capable of producing bespoke stuff... do you create 3D renders with it for your customers then?

That's the main reason I went for Articad... I tried some trials of various rendering plugins like podium/shaderlight etc and then Vray (which is amazing) but they are so graphics card/processor hungry and a separate  skill set really that I felt Articad was tailored for what I want.

I think the accuracy/freedom that you can work in SketchUp with is so good. It's where Articad needs to be in my mind- but I know nothing about the processes involved with making it work that way.

Currently I just use layout to produce some basic 3d representations and elevations. It looks okay, but I really need to get the photo realism/HD thing nailed!

On a separate note, I do really enjoy the computer aspect. It's quite early days for me yet (as you may have gathered!) but if I had the know how, and the hardware, I'd definitely go down the Vray route.

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(30-12-2017, 04:37 PM)Petercochrane Wrote: That's the main reason I went for Articad... I tried some trials of various rendering plugins like podium/shaderlight etc and then Vray (which is amazing) but they are so graphics card/processor hungry and a separate  skill set really that I felt Articad was tailored for what I want.

I think the accuracy/freedom that you can work in SketchUp with is so good. It's where Articad needs to be in my mind- but I know nothing about the processes involved with making it work that way.

Currently I just use layout to produce some basic 3d representations and elevations. It looks okay, but I really need to get the photo realism/HD thing nailed!

On a separate note, I do really enjoy the computer aspect. It's quite early days for me yet (as you may have gathered!) but if I had the know how, and the hardware, I'd definitely go down the Vray route.

Peter, so did you have a "hand's on" demo of ArtiCAD before you decided to commit to it?

The computer designing aspect is what really changed my mind from being on the tools although I still do a little of it mainly putting other people's work right before the customer receives it...

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[attachment=2258 Wrote:Petercochrane pid='64548' dateline='1514383721']Hi all,

So, I'm trying to cooly/calmly learn my way around articad, despite the huge lack of learning resources (the online content they provide doesn't even scratch the surface!).

I need to draw an integrated fridge freezer... in frame, with an overhead storage cabinet.

All frame components are 38mm thick.
The door on the freezer (bottom door) and the door on the fridge don't have a frame rail separating them.
Between the fridge door, and the overhead storage door, there is a frame rail.

How the hell do I get it to do this?!! I've tried all sorts, but nowt has worked!!!

In a state of panic, I've been looking at Autokitchen. From their website it sounds like the above really wouldn't be an issue?

Prior to purchasing Articad, no searches brought Autokitchen to my attention... as soon as I started loosing the plot with it, I've heard it mentioned six/seven times!!! Ha!

Hi,

I used to use 20/20 when I used to make inframe kitchens but didn't get on with it very well.

Now I just produce visuals I use Autokitchen and have found it to show , sometimes with a little playing around, all I have wanted.

Take a look at these links to see what can be done with it, for example the curved oak cabinets I have completely made up myself using components.  Any cabinets with varying apertures are fine too.

Please ask any questions and I will do my best th answer resim

Chris @ Visuals by design

www.linkedin.com/in/chris-airey-visuals-by-design/ 
www.visualsbydesign.co.uk
www.houzz.co.uk/pro/chris5319/visuals-by-design


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